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Nick Crayne's avatar

As an Anglican, I find it difficult to reconcile your presuppositions. No one accepts our inclusion in the one holy Catholic and apostolic Church. We believe that we are part of it, yet both Rome and the Eastern churches have rejected us. If you examine our theology, you will see that we hold enough Protestant beliefs that do not align with Catholicism in the way that Rome or the Eastern churches would prefer.

While we can explore history and agree with our arguments, I believe they are valid in their own right. However, we cannot claim to be the one holy Catholic and apostolic Church because none of our fellow Christians acknowledge us as such. Therefore, if you are seeking an ecumenical consensus, we fall short by default.

We could easily use your same reasoning regarding scripture and discussions about church history. Many Presbyterians and Lutherans believe they are the one holy Catholic and apostolic Church as well, based on the consensus of the early Church Fathers. Hence, no matter how you approach it, the argument becomes circular and ultimately falls flat, as your approval of catholicity is contingent upon ecumenical acceptance, which I have already stated does not work for our communion.

Robert D. Hosken's avatar

2 Peter 1:20-21 states that no scripture is of private interpretation, and then it explains why: *for*, or because, holy *men* of God spoke (and wrote) as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. The connecting word "for" shows a relationship between the writing and the interpretation of Scripture: just as it takes holy men to write Scripture, so also it takes holy men (plural) to interpret Scripture. This Gary fellow, a lone wolf, is implicitly claiming authority in himself to be the absolute authority over Scripture interpretation. Neither pope nor patriarch nor Gary are absolute or infallible. Those infinite attributes can only belong to God. That is why it takes an Ecumenical Council of godly men to agree on what is binding for the whole Church. One patriarch or pope or bishop alone or just a few of them can make mistakes, none are inerrant or infallible. Nor is one person's opinion of Scripture's meaning or that of a few.

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