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Fr Thomas Plant's avatar

I would like this to be so, and think that it has been and still could be. There are, however, certain areas of contention. It is hard to see the English church, evinced by St Bede, as other than "Roman" since the Augustine mission of 596 and all the more so since Whitby (664), though your point still stands, since Rome was as yet in communion with the other great patriarchates - the appointment of a Greek bishop, St Theodore of Tarsus, as Archbishop of Canterbury in 669 attests to this. That the Reformation was in part a reaction to over-Romanisation of the Western Church is surely also true, and buttressed by the Reformers' constant appeal not only to Scripture, but to the Fathers of West and East. Their sacramental theology also owed something to the East. The degradation of the cult of the saints, veneration of relics and ban on veneration of images, however, was far from Orthodoxy, and I am glad that in most Anglican provinces those errors have now been rectified. We have, alas, fallen into other ones, ranging from outright Calvinism to unilateral decisions on church order which run contrary to Scripture, tradition and the universal consensus of the Church. These preclude reunion. However, in those Anglican churches which have resisted or revised such errors, there is indeed hope for unity with the East, and for certain parts of the Anglican world to be the Western Orthodoxy that we truly should be. Ut unum simus!

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Arseny's avatar

I had a brief stop-over in high church Anglicanism before becoming Orthodox, and can credit a specific Anglo-Catholic parish as my first exposure to truly transcendent liturgy, which I am very grateful for. In fact we can probably in large part blame the absence of any high church Anglican parishes in my area for my eventual crossing of the Bosporus. All that to say I am still very interested in what high church Anglicans think and mean the following as sincere inquiry, and not polemics.

My question is, how reunion would work on the ground level regarding sacraments and liturgical practice (I'll leave ecclesiology to people who actually know what they're talking about)? From our point of view, reunion would at minimum require acknowledgment by all we come into communion with that there are (at least) seven Sacraments, of veneration of relics, icons, and the saints not as just an option but as necessary, that after the Consecration there is not only the Real Presence of Christ but also an absence of any more bread or wine, of paedocommunion, and probably plenty more I'm forgetting.

I'm sure many or most Anglo-Catholics could follow on those points, but I'm not sure about the balance of Anglicanism. I can recall from my time in Anglicanism that it was sometimes hard enough to agree with my fellow parishioners that Christ was truly present after the Consecration, much less that only Christ was present on the altar. I myself moved in high church circles without accepting the intercession of saints or veneration of icons and relics - those were practices I only came to understand and accept during my conversion to Orthodoxy.

I completely agree regarding Western Orthodoxy in the British Isles up to the Norman Conquest, and of course agree that reunification is desirable (and for what it's worth, my personal opinion is that Anglicanism is the best prospect for that after the Oriental Orthodox). My hesitation is that it seems much of the optimism regarding union from the 19th Century to today, both on the part of Anglo-Catholics and the Orthodox, stems in part from ignoring the broad swaths of more Reformed Anglicanism.

Apologies for the long comment, and a blessed remainder of Lent to you and your parish.

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